non paying customers
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highkvoltage
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Re: non paying customers
Under $3000 small claims. Over $3000 my attorney takes them to court. Either case if you win the judgement you can also recover your cost.
Under $3000 small claims. Over $3000 my attorney takes them to court. Either case if you win the judgement you can also recover your cost.
Re: non paying customers
The worst "poke in the eye" is when the &%@#*^ file bankruptcy. Then you get nothing!
HOWEVER, you still won't get paid. The best method is cash at time of service! Next to that file a lien. When they sell the property you might get paid something, unless the bank is owed more than what the building is worth.
The worst "poke in the eye" is when the &%@#*^ file bankruptcy. Then you get nothing!
I love it! I got a few of those!
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: non paying customers
Have 2 of your biggest toughest men do some moonlighting in your collection department
Have 2 of your biggest toughest men do some moonlighting in your collection department
Re: non paying customers
Take them to small claims, win a judgement, notifiy the "Big 3".
If they haven't ponied up by the court date, they have no intention of paying. The judgement( and reporting to credit agencies) will damage there credit report...affecting everything from Credit Cards to refinancing/new mortages.
In NJ (I assume you are NJ, with that name), the judgement will stay on the credit report for 10 years and is renewable for another 10 years (20 years). In NJ's hot RE market, they can't afford that kind of a blemish on their credit.
There a few ways to "help" get the money (all legal w/o the need for Paulie Walnuts and Silvio Dante to put down the cannoli and get some exercise).
If your are from NJ, and need/want some info...just reply to this post.
Take them to small claims, win a judgement, notifiy the "Big 3".
If they haven't ponied up by the court date, they have no intention of paying. The judgement( and reporting to credit agencies) will damage there credit report...affecting everything from Credit Cards to refinancing/new mortages.
In NJ (I assume you are NJ, with that name), the judgement will stay on the credit report for 10 years and is renewable for another 10 years (20 years). In NJ's hot RE market, they can't afford that kind of a blemish on their credit.
There a few ways to "help" get the money (all legal w/o the need for Paulie Walnuts and Silvio Dante to put down the cannoli and get some exercise).
If your are from NJ, and need/want some info...just reply to this post.
Re: non paying customers
i was in that neck of the woods in the early 70's and elecricians who didn't get paid would wait until the right time, take the cover off the panel and cut all the circuits at the box edge. the next electrician who was called would refuse the work as he knew the guy didn't pay.
I am not proposing anything drastic, but in the area of mutual interest, wouldn't it be nice to see local boards with late payers posted. it's what credit agencies do, why not local contractors?
paul
i was in that neck of the woods in the early 70's and elecricians who didn't get paid would wait until the right time, take the cover off the panel and cut all the circuits at the box edge. the next electrician who was called would refuse the work as he knew the guy didn't pay.
I am not proposing anything drastic, but in the area of mutual interest, wouldn't it be nice to see local boards with late payers posted. it's what credit agencies do, why not local contractors?
paul
jimwalker
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Re: non paying customers
Not sure about all states but here that would land you a fellony charge.
Not sure about all states but here that would land you a fellony charge.
coppertreeelectric
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Re: non paying customers
apauling, we are looking for a new Director of Opreations. Would you be interested?
Another great idea from apauling. This idea may work in your neck of the woods where the only other EC / Hacker is related to you.
apauling, we are looking for a new Director of Opreations. Would you be interested?
resistance
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- WA
Re: non paying customers
cutting wire is a crime!
Most likely this is in everybodies neck of the woods!
[ April 22, 2005, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: resistance ]
cutting wire is a crime!
Most likely this is in everybodies neck of the woods!
[ April 22, 2005, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: resistance ]
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: non paying customers
You should make it very clear to the customer that payment is due upon completion of the job.Add a finance charge of the max permitted by law along with there agreement to pay collection fees if needed.Let them know that any bills not promptly payed results in a $100 charge to file a lien the next day.I was taught how to collect 35 years ago when i did TV work.Before i delivered your repaired set i called the customer,informed them we had there set finished and would set up delivery.Asked them if this will be paid by cash , check or credit card so the driver had change if needed.What i was really telling them is we are collecting.Same method would work for service calls,let them know upfront that they are paying same day.
You should make it very clear to the customer that payment is due upon completion of the job.Add a finance charge of the max permitted by law along with there agreement to pay collection fees if needed.Let them know that any bills not promptly payed results in a $100 charge to file a lien the next day.I was taught how to collect 35 years ago when i did TV work.Before i delivered your repaired set i called the customer,informed them we had there set finished and would set up delivery.Asked them if this will be paid by cash , check or credit card so the driver had change if needed.What i was really telling them is we are collecting.Same method would work for service calls,let them know upfront that they are paying same day.
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- Massachusetts
Re: non paying customers
Jim, it seems odd you are posting to this thread. :roll:
Jim, it seems odd you are posting to this thread. :roll:
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Re: non paying customers
Maybe, but payback is a b****!
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: non paying customers
Bob,seems you don't mind paying for things that should be free.That's fine with me.If you want to why not donate an extra grand or two
I don't like to be used as nfpa victom.I do give them credit in how they pulled this off.Local government rather than write there own codes use a private company and then hand bill to the electrician at any price they want.If you can't see this point then don't worry about it just keep paying.I found a free online site so problem is solved.
Bob,seems you don't mind paying for things that should be free.That's fine with me.If you want to why not donate an extra grand or two
I don't like to be used as nfpa victom.I do give them credit in how they pulled this off.Local government rather than write there own codes use a private company and then hand bill to the electrician at any price they want.If you can't see this point then don't worry about it just keep paying.I found a free online site so problem is solved.
Re: non paying customers
Jim, have you found that online site where you can get stolen hand tools yet.
You keep bragging about using a hot copy of the NEC, well regardless of how you're trying to convince yourself that using a hot copy is justified, the bottom line is it's thievery.
Roger
[ April 23, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
Jim, have you found that online site where you can get stolen hand tools yet.
You keep bragging about using a hot copy of the NEC, well regardless of how you're trying to convince yourself that using a hot copy is justified, the bottom line is it's thievery.
Roger
[ April 23, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: non paying customers
roger, your entitled to your opinion.Am getting bit tired of your calling me a tool thief,maybe your one but i am not.Will i view a web site that publishes the law for free ,YES and many saw that link posted here (not by me)and like it or not many copied it.
roger, your entitled to your opinion.Am getting bit tired of your calling me a tool thief,maybe your one but i am not.Will i view a web site that publishes the law for free ,YES and many saw that link posted here (not by me)and like it or not many copied it.
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: non paying customers
Roger,i never copy copywrite protected material.
Roger,i never copy copywrite protected material.
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