Nope.
406.9(C) Bathtub and Shower Space. Receptacles shall not be
installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.
Can a receptacle be installed on a wall approx 4' above the deck of an interior hydro massage tub? It would be for a television.
I don't have my code book in front of me but recall there being restrictions within a bathtub zone.
Thanks.
Within a bathtub?Nope.
406.9(C) Bathtub and Shower Space. Receptacles shall not be
installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.
Within a bathtub?
Is not a spa, however 680 part VII applies.Would a hydro massage tub be considered a spa and subject to 680?
Unless the side walls of the tub are flush with the wall the receptacle is mounted on - it is not in or over the tub space..
what about 12vdc? they make monitors that run low vdc. you would mount a jbox but the wire would be low v and the cover would have the correct jack in it for the "tv".
Do they have a good reference to set a limit to the size of said deck or flat surface around the tub? One could have a receptacle just outside said area and still be able to actually reach the television or even the receptacle in question. If it is of that much concern then they need similar rule as they would have if it were a swimming pool or hot tub - 5 feet from inside walls of tub to the receptacle, that is fairly clear. Same rule would make the required receptacle for the bath sink vicinity hard to comply with in some instances though.I know others have expressed the same opinion but I think most inspectors will include the any deck or flat surface around the tub as part of the tub.
If I was asked to do this I would say no, it is a code violation.
Do they have a good reference to set a limit to the size of said deck or flat surface around the tub?
I see that very often and to me it is a code violation. Tub zone is from the edge of tub (or from the face of knee wall sorounding tub) and 8 ft. up above.I know others have expressed the same opinion but I think most inspectors will include the any deck or flat surface around the tub as part of the tub.
If I was asked to do this I would say no, it is a code violation.
I agree; sometimes common sense must prevail irrespective of the code language. The code, like the Law, is sometimes vulnerable to perambulations and interpretations that would permit an action which is clearly against the spirit, if not the letter, of the regulations. One thing that the Jurassic Park series of films has shown us is that just because something is possible doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good idea.How about locating the TV not over the tub?
Code aside i would not sleep well installing any set up that might result in a person standing in a tub while touching a TV trying to adjust it.
I see that very often and to me it is a code violation. Tub zone is from the edge of tub (or from the face of knee wall sorounding tub) and 8 ft. up above.
If outlet is more than 8 ft above tub than it's ok.
OK, tub surrounding is part of tub, and I see it as tub zone. Unfortunately code is not clear in some situations, like, "is blanked J-box prohibited in tub zone"Can you reference code section(s) that verify all of what you said there?
Inside walls of tub, can maybe be assumed at the very minimum, 8 ft up also can possibly be determined from other items prohibited in the "tub zone" Otherwise one may have as little as a couple inches of "deck, ledge, etc. surrounding the tub or up to several feet. That is why if there is to be a limit outside the tub walls I like how they do it with swimming pools and hot tubs - 5 feet from inside wall of the tub/pool, but then as I said before, with such a rule you can have an otherwise required receptacle near a basin that is too close to the tub.
We also have this discussion with switch locations that end up next to tubs or showers from time to time. Generally the rule is not inside the tub or shower space, without further definition I still think that space ends at the inside walls of a tub or with a shower the space that is inside any wall, door, or other partition that generally separates the wet from the dry locations.
OK, tub surrounding is part of tub, and I see it as tub zone. Unfortunately code is not clear in some situations, like, "is blanked J-box prohibited in tub zone"
There is nowhere in code that says that you can't have it, and many are using it as a loop hole and next you know it, after inspection blank cover is gone and there it comes receptacle and TV.
It's all matter of different views until code sets more clear rules.
Definitely true of CRT based TVs or plasma TVs, or even the fluorescent backlight of some LCD TVs....
to me, its not the outlet that's the hazard, its the tv itself, it likely has some higher voltage running inside with enough power ability to provide a good shock.