not permanently anchored "she shed"

[g-and-h_electric]

Hey guys, I need some direction on this one. I have a customer with a "she shed" on the driveway next to the house ( less than 4 feet in between). It is NOT on a foundation or anchored to the driveway at all. Since it is "non permanent" can it be fed from a 4-wire GFCI protected twist-lock receptacle (customer has a need for 2 circuits in it)? The cord would be about 3 feet off the ground so as not to create a trip hazard.

Any reason this wouldnt be code? I was told that since it isnt permanently anchored, it cant be hardwired (the customer said the carpenter told them this).

Any ideas ??????

I have some site pictures if anyone wants to see them.



Howard

 

[infinity]

Sure, post the photos.

 

[letgomywago]

Mobile homes are mobile and can have a hardwired connection. You could make it easy to move just put an ac disconnect is my go to for sheds.

 

[Little Bill]

Hey guys, I need some direction on this one. I have a customer with a "she shed" on the driveway next to the house ( less than 4 feet in between). It is NOT on a foundation or anchored to the driveway at all. Since it is "non permanent" can it be fed from a 4-wire GFCI protected twist-lock receptacle (customer has a need for 2 circuits in it)? The cord would be about 3 feet off the ground so as not to create a trip hazard.

Any reason this wouldnt be code? I was told that since it isnt permanently anchored, it cant be hardwired (the customer said the carpenter told them this).

Any ideas ??????

I have some site pictures if anyone wants to see them.



Howard

1st mistake!
I don't see a problem with hardwiring it, but if you want to cover your bases, I would just put a disconnect, as was mentioned, and a small panel inside.
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[g-and-h_electric]

Not the greatest of pics.... BUT the shed is currently fed with 2 extension cords off of the service receptacle by the A/C unit. In the shed it IS in EMT, with GFCI's. I am sure, I will have to check the workmanship of those, but the way it is fed now is too "funny".

Sounding like we think Liquitight from another A/C disconnect is the way to go


Howard

 

[Little Bill]

Not the greatest of pics.... BUT the shed is currently fed with 2 extension cords off of the service receptacle by the A/C unit. In the shed it IS in EMT, with GFCI's. I am sure, I will have to check the workmanship of those, but the way it is fed now is too "funny".

Sounding like we think Liquitight from another A/C disconnect is the way to go


Howard

I wonder if there is a neutral in that A/C disconnect or they just bootlegged off the EGC?
Do they think 2 extension cords is giving them 2 circuits?

 

[Todd0x1]

I'd treat it like any other trailer or RV and feed it with 4 wire cord from a 3P4W receptacle on the house.

 

[LarryFine]

I'd treat it like any other trailer or RV and feed it with 4 wire cord from a 3P4W receptacle on the house.

Exactamundo!

 

[g-and-h_electric]

Yes, not only is there a neutral in that GFCI, but it is on a separate circuit (which I am going to leave as is). Actually from looking on the site, the GFCI was put in at the time of original construction.

So 4-wire SO cord to the shed, and a twist lock receptacle (with GFCI protection at the panel ) it is !

That was my original thought to treat it as a "portable structure". The "cord and plug". making it easy if the thing had to be removed.

Now I can work on a price to make things right!


Howard

 

[ggunn]

Do they think 2 extension cords is giving them 2 circuits?

Of course not. If the extension cords are the same length they are obviously parallel conductors.

 

[Todd0x1]

You might want to look at using a 50 amp RV receptacle enclosure and a 14-50P on your cord. There aren't any great inuse covers that work with twistlocks.