Units- NECA

[Alwayslearningelec]

So per attached if you use NECA labor units about 1/2 the actual time is the installation and you can see the other parts that make up the rest.

So there is some NPL in there. On larger bids, say $500k + and if you use NECA units in a bid do you guys add separate non productive labor?
IMO essentially you'd be adding it twice unless you think there will be more than 5%.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

Ooops forgot to attach

 

[Joe Villani]

Do not take the non productive component out of the labor unit. For you think a worker is productive 7 or 8 hours a day?

Non productive labor (Supervision) I put as a separate line item and it depends on contract requirements and the schedule

 

[Hv&Lv]

NORMAL NON-PRODUCTIVE LABOR - Every labor unit in this Manual includes a prorated amount of the normal non-productive labor. The magnitude of the non-productive labor in each labor unit is unknown. The normal non-productive labor in the NECA labor units include:
- Personal comfort breaks
- Normal time to obtain drinking water
- Minimum breaks for coffee carried to the work area
- Walking time between the gang shed and the work area
- Minimal walking time to obtain tools and electrical materials
- Minimal lost time due to interference by other crafts
- No lost time waiting for material or personnel hoists or cranes
- No lost time due to strikes, work stoppages, or jurisdictional disputes
- No lost time due to egress, job site security, or physical obstructions

 

[Strathead]

For a bid, if you used NECA units and also included everything they tell you isn't included, you will lose any competitive bid. I was taught by an old Local 6 Electrician, and he had a set of 3 x 5 cards with labor units he and others actually used, for example he used 3 hours per 100 feet for 1/2"

 

[AC\DC]

NECA is awesome for jobs you don’t want, if you get your at least that’s how I feel.