RGS vs Rigid Aluminum

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mshields

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I have always specified RGS for outside and exposed applications. Is Rigid Aluminum equal, not as good, better or a little of both?

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Mike
 

junkhound

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In soil or above ground?
coastal - e.g near slat water.

Case history - Honolulu airport, many decades ago, new construction used Al rigid underground. Within 3 years ome already deteriorated due to iron/sulpher, etc. content of volcanic soil. Only galvanized now, or stainless in some applications.

What is the chemistry of your areas?
 

masterinbama

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In soil or above ground?
coastal - e.g near slat water.

Case history - Honolulu airport, many decades ago, new construction used Al rigid underground. Within 3 years ome already deteriorated due to iron/sulpher, etc. content of volcanic soil. Only galvanized now, or stainless in some applications.

What is the chemistry of your areas?
I would never put aluminum underground.

But exposed to most elements, it's preferable to GRS.



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tom baker

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I used to see a lot of AL for traffic signal risers on poles, from ped signals up to weather heads. Most signals use mast arms so wiring is UG, where exposed RGS
 

Coppersmith

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Aluminum is for environments where steel would corrode faster then normal. I worked at an orange juice plant. We installed AL conduit and PVC coated steel. Never uncoated steel.
 

infinity

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Untreated aluminum cannot be used underground. For above ground like on a roof it's better than steel RMC.
 

hbiss

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I used aluminum underground back when it was allowable to do so. (Requirements were the same as for RGS as far as corrosive environments.) I recently had to dig up a section and I was surprised to see that it was as good as the day I buried it 40 years ago here in the NE.

Just don't run it through or under concrete. It will turn to toothpaste.

-Hal
 

don_resqcapt19

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Aluminum won't rust away and is much easier to install which IMO makes it better. (y)
I labor it higher than I do rigid. It often does not thread well, and you really can't adjust a bend like you can with rigid because it work hardens, and instead of adjusting the original bend, you end up with a bend in a new spot on the pipe.

The only time I would consider aluminum is if it is needs because the materials in the area corrode rigid and don't aluminum.
 

LarryFine

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Some years ago, I had to remove a 4" aluminum LB from aluminum conduit to re-route an outdoor feeder.

The bottom line is that I had to cut the LB hub in three places to get it off of the conduit. And, I really tried.
 

LarryFine

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The buried run I was talking about unscrewed from a coupling like I did it yesterday. I remember using Penetrox on the threads.
I tried to unscrew it after each cut. It still took hard hitting with a hammer after the third cut, which divided the body in two, to separate the pieces from the conduit. The threads were filled with oxidation.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Some years ago, I had to remove a 4" aluminum LB from aluminum conduit to re-route an outdoor feeder.

The bottom line is that I had to cut the LB hub in three places to get it off of the conduit. And, I really tried.
I did a "try" fit up, only hand tight into an LB, and ended up crushing the pipe to get it out, and it had a lubricant on the threads.
 
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