We have 1/2" rigid conduit with one GFCI protected 20A circuit feeding a pool pump, now the owner wants to add another pump for a hot tub, this pump motor will be a 1 1/2 HP at 220v 9A, the last time we pulled another pump feed through the same conduit, we were taged, what am i missing.
Pool Pumps
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bphgravity
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Re: Pool Pumps
Not enough information?
What were you tagged for specifically? Conduit fill?
Not enough information?
What were you tagged for specifically? Conduit fill?
ryan_618
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Re: Pool Pumps
Ampacity adjustment for more than 3 current carrying conductors in a raceway????
Ampacity adjustment for more than 3 current carrying conductors in a raceway????
Re: Pool Pumps
More than 1 pump feed in a conduit is allowed as long as both circuits are gfi protected. In relation to pools you can not mix non-gfi and gfi circuits in the same conduit. I assume that the first circuit is protected by a GFI breaker and you are hard-wiring the 220V pump in which GFI is not required. However if it is installed in the same conduit as a GFI protected circuit it must also be GFI protected.
More than 1 pump feed in a conduit is allowed as long as both circuits are gfi protected. In relation to pools you can not mix non-gfi and gfi circuits in the same conduit. I assume that the first circuit is protected by a GFI breaker and you are hard-wiring the 220V pump in which GFI is not required. However if it is installed in the same conduit as a GFI protected circuit it must also be GFI protected.
bphgravity
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Re: Pool Pumps
Huh? What code section states that?
txsparky
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Re: Pool Pumps
My 02 book is at work, but I believe pfelmey is referring to lighting circuits for pools. 680-5(c), and 680-20(a)(1). The gfci requirement would be there if the gfci protected lighting circuit conductors were ran in the same conduit.
[ May 17, 2004, 09:57 PM: Message edited by: txsparky ]
My 02 book is at work, but I believe pfelmey is referring to lighting circuits for pools. 680-5(c), and 680-20(a)(1). The gfci requirement would be there if the gfci protected lighting circuit conductors were ran in the same conduit.
[ May 17, 2004, 09:57 PM: Message edited by: txsparky ]
bill addiss
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Re: Pool Pumps
When you got tagged what was the voltage requirements of the original pump and the depth of the conduit?
Bill
When you got tagged what was the voltage requirements of the original pump and the depth of the conduit?
Bill
richwaskowitz
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Re: Pool Pumps
So, if I run a 1" PVC from the changing house (where the sub-panel is located) to the area where the filter (120 v), heat pump (220 v) and underwater light (120 v with 12 volt transformer at the light)are located, I either need to have all the GFCIs at the panel or all at the equipment and not mix GFCI protected and non-protected conductors in the same pipe?
So, if I run a 1" PVC from the changing house (where the sub-panel is located) to the area where the filter (120 v), heat pump (220 v) and underwater light (120 v with 12 volt transformer at the light)are located, I either need to have all the GFCIs at the panel or all at the equipment and not mix GFCI protected and non-protected conductors in the same pipe?
bill addiss
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Re: Pool Pumps
rich,
If you're on the 1999 NEC look at 680-5(b)(1)
I don't see the same language in the 2002.
Bill
rich,
If you're on the 1999 NEC look at 680-5(b)(1)
I don't see the same language in the 2002.
Bill
richwaskowitz
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Re: Pool Pumps
Thanks Bill. That was pretty clear and I understand the reasoning now. No sense in protecting one circuit with a GFI and having another unprotected one in the same pipe burn up for some reason and arc over to the other.
Thanks Bill. That was pretty clear and I understand the reasoning now. No sense in protecting one circuit with a GFI and having another unprotected one in the same pipe burn up for some reason and arc over to the other.
txsparky
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Re: Pool Pumps
Bill,
The same restrictions are in the 02 also. I looked at it today at work. It was 680.30 or somewhere thereabouts.
Bill,
The same restrictions are in the 02 also. I looked at it today at work. It was 680.30 or somewhere thereabouts.
bill addiss
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Re: Pool Pumps
Ahh, found it. >> 680.23(F)(3)
Thanks!
satcom,
I was wondering if you had a 300.5 violation.
Bill
txsparky,
Ahh, found it. >> 680.23(F)(3)
Thanks!
satcom,
I was wondering if you had a 300.5 violation.
Bill
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