How do I keep from being underbid by contractors who don't follow the specs?

Strathead

Senior Member
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You have not been involved with many larger projects have you? GC's like Turner, Bovis, and the likes scrutinize every aspect of the bids and on these projects the MEP group is constantly involved through out the project, sometimes on a daily basis. I have been on jobs where each part of the architect and MEP group had a QC person on the site everyday. As far as VE negotiating, it is done after all the contracts have been awarded and the owner is part of the process. Most jobs of this size have Architect, Owner, Contractor meetings weekly.

During AIA progress billings it is not uncommon to have to walk an MEP rep through the stored material and check off schedule of value items.

I know this is not typical of small to medium size jobs but on large projects it is pretty much the norm

Roger
Yes, you are definitely playing in a different sandbox then. Also, even smaller projects at Universities many school systems, hospitals, industrial complexes, etc.
 

petersonra

Senior Member
Location
Northern illinois
Occupation
engineer
Give it a shot...........tell us how it works out
I am not suggesting any attempt to cheat someone. Just read what the contract documents actually say and not what you think they say. Incidentally, most of the specs I deal with are for fairly small projects as another poster suggested. If the people at the top of the food chain take their specs seriously, they can enforce them. But that costs money and for a lot of smallish projects it is not that important.
 

Strathead

Senior Member
I am not suggesting any attempt to cheat someone. Just read what the contract documents actually say and not what you think they say. Incidentally, most of the specs I deal with are for fairly small projects as another poster suggested. If the people at the top of the food chain take their specs seriously, they can enforce them. But that costs money and for a lot of smallish projects it is not that important.
I understand what you are saying but "not that important" is risky. The specs are generally a legally binding part of the contract. While you can usually cut corners on them without anyone being concerned, a cut corner is, in fact, a criminal act. Since speeding is also a criminal act, I am not meaning to be dramatic, just make sure you understand before you violate. Kind of like when (not if) you violate code.
 
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