400 amp residential service

[KushElectric]

So I am looking to change my 200 amp meter base to 400 amp. I will be needing a three 100 amp breakers to feed three 100 amp panels as well as 2- 2 pole 30 amp circuits. I’m looking a combo style panel setup. I am from the industrial electrical world so the res. panelS I’m not sure of my choices. Any suggestions on panel meter combos for this kind of need ?

 

[Little Bill]

How are these 100A panels fed now from your 200A service?

 

[KushElectric]

I only have a existing 200 amp meter base to a 200 amp panel in my cabin. I’m so I will have three buildings all needing 100 amps. I see these 400A meter base combos but only see 2-4 spaces in the load side. Just trying to keep from having a trough and a huge back board set up with meter base and two panels

 

[LarryFine]

If the calculated loads total low enough, the existing 200a service may suffice.

You could possibly make do with a 200a outdoor panel with feed-through lugs.

 

[KushElectric]

That would work I’m worried about future loads. I guess I should say these loads may change so I can ad camp sites and cabins

 

[augie47]

IMO, 1st thing you need to do is develop a load calculation for the service as a whole and the individual feeders.
Is 400 amp going to be adequate ?
Siemens has some 320/400 amp meter mods with a 200 amp sub-feed and 8 or more branch spaces available
( EUSERC ) pg 2-47

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dcc-data-extract/new-delta/asset/Compas/daily/Compas/SpeedFax/SF-17-Sect-02-ALL-web.pdf?19092020

 

[KushElectric]

IMO, 1st thing you need to do is develop a load calculation for the service as a whole and the individual feeders.
Is 400 amp going to be adequate ?
Siemens has some 320/400 amp meter mods with a 200 amp sub-feed and 8 or more branch spaces available
( EUSERC ) pg 2-47

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dcc-data-extract/new-delta/asset/Compas/daily/Compas/SpeedFax/SF-17-Sect-02-ALL-web.pdf?19092020

The 400amps will be adequate my load is only about 250-300 now with current and loads described in first post. The 100 amp circuits are over kill but my main issue was a meter base and panel combo with that kind of rating with more than two spaces for breakers. The one you posted seems like a good choice

 

[LarryFine]

That would work I’m worried about future loads. I guess I should say these loads may change so I can ad camp sites and cabins

You basically need to decide how much future-proofing you're ready to spend money on now.

 

[electrofelon]

Sounds like 230.40 exception #3 is your friend here.

 

[KushElectric]

I need 400 amps and abilities to use that with a four 2 pole breakers. I am just looking for meter combo ideas.

 

[LarryFine]

I need 400 amps and abilities to use that with a four 2 pole breakers. I am just looking for meter combo ideas.

In no particular order:

Square D Homeline 400 Amp 30-Space 40-Circuit Outdoor Ring-Type Underground Main Breaker CSED with Class 320 Test Block Bypass SU3040D400CB - The Home Depot

The Square D 400 Amp 30-Space 40-Circuit Outdoor Combination meter Socket and Main Breaker Load Center is suitable for use as a combination service entrance device (CSED). This unit is ANSI certified and UL listed with a maximum 25,000 AIR. The combination service entrance device features a...

www.homedepot.com

400 meter main combo - Google Shopping

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400 meter main combo - Google Shopping

www.google.com

https://www.amazon.com/Siemens-MC0816B1400RLTM-Meter-Load-Combination-Ringless/dp/B008KM9VIC/ref=asc_df_B008KM9VIC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167140365824&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4575763976829553215&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008464&hvtargid=pla-305490649840&psc=1

Siemens MM0404L1400RLM 400-Amp Levery Bypass Meter Main Combination with and Ringless Cover - - Amazon.com

Siemens MM0404L1400RLM 400-Amp Levery Bypass Meter Main Combination with and Ringless Cover - - Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

 

[KushElectric]

IMO, 1st thing you need to do is develop a load calculation for the service as a whole and the individual feeders.
Is 400 amp going to be adequate ?
Siemens has some 320/400 amp meter mods with a 200 amp sub-feed and 8 or more branch spaces available
( EUSERC ) pg 2-47

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dcc-data-extract/new-delta/asset/Compas/daily/Compas/SpeedFax/SF-17-Sect-02-ALL-web.pdf?19092020

Thanks this is what I was looking

In no particular order:

Square D Homeline 400 Amp 30-Space 40-Circuit Outdoor Ring-Type Underground Main Breaker CSED with Class 320 Test Block Bypass SU3040D400CB - The Home Depot

The Square D 400 Amp 30-Space 40-Circuit Outdoor Combination meter Socket and Main Breaker Load Center is suitable for use as a combination service entrance device (CSED). This unit is ANSI certified and UL listed with a maximum 25,000 AIR. The combination service entrance device features a...

www.homedepot.com

400 meter main combo - Google Shopping

www.google.com

400 meter main combo - Google Shopping

www.google.com

https://www.amazon.com/Siemens-MC0816B1400RLTM-Meter-Load-Combination-Ringless/dp/B008KM9VIC/ref=asc_df_B008KM9VIC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167140365824&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4575763976829553215&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008464&hvtargid=pla-305490649840&psc=1

Siemens MM0404L1400RLM 400-Amp Levery Bypass Meter Main Combination with and Ringless Cover - - Amazon.com

Siemens MM0404L1400RLM 400-Amp Levery Bypass Meter Main Combination with and Ringless Cover - - Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

Thanks man

 

[MIKEWVA]

How would you do a 350amp overhead service on the 2020 code cycle with the service disconnect? The mast is going thru roof and going to have 200amp and 150amp interior panels?