Underground entrance service conductors junction

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pkelectrical

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I have project where I need to move the meter outside and install it on the side of the house.
Right now the underground service entrance conductors come from the front of the house(garage with doors facing to the side), into the disconnect (inside the garage) and from the disconnect to the meter (inside the garage also) and then to a breaker panel next to the meter (inside the garage)

I do not know why they have the disconnect before the meter inside the garage and why the meter is inside the garage (single family dwelling).

My question is there a way to junction the conductors inside the ground using a special junction box or only way to do it is to set up junction box above the ground, then come out with pvc conduit into the ground again to the side of the house and into the meter.

First time I have to deal with something like this. Usually I only do overhead connections, done couple underground but never had to move underground service to new location.
 

Smart $

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Ohio
To put a j-box inside above grade will cause a violation of 230.70(A)(1). You could intercept the conductors and install a j-box below grade and fabricate a removable concrete/masonry cover in compliance with 230.6(1) & (2), or make a vault in compliance with 230.6(3).

With all that'll you'll have to go through to splice inside, I suggest you just intercept outside.

The preceding assumes you are relocating the meter.
 

pkelectrical

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To put a j-box inside above grade will cause a violation of 230.70(A)(1). You could intercept the conductors and install a j-box below grade and fabricate a removable concrete/masonry cover in compliance with 230.6(1) & (2), or make a vault in compliance with 230.6(3).

With all that'll you'll have to go through to splice inside, I suggest you just intercept outside.

The preceding assumes you are relocating the meter.

Thanks for the input.
314.29 allows me to bury handholes and underground electrical enclosure underground.
314.30 specifies requirements for the handhole enclosure. I will try to do more search to find a product that would satisfy the requirements and work in this installation.
 

Smart $

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Ohio
run a new service,only utility can splice feeders underground i believe!
Actually, the utility (POCO around here) shouldn't be splicing any "feeders".

Service point may enter the legality of the matter, but splicing service conductors is not limited to being performed by the POCO or a contractor thereunder.
 
We completed an underground service relocation a month or so ago. (from one side of the house to another)

Utility had us build the new service, including new buried conduit and conduit/wire to the interior panels. We scheduled the inspection and the utility was there the same day as the inspector.

Once the inspector gave his OK the power was disconnected, we completed the connections inside and pulled out the old wire while the utility pulled out the old and ran their new wires. They made their connections at the meter, made sure we were done and put the meter in the new socket and turned on the power.
 

kwired

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NE Nebraska
I have project where I need to move the meter outside and install it on the side of the house.
Right now the underground service entrance conductors come from the front of the house(garage with doors facing to the side), into the disconnect (inside the garage) and from the disconnect to the meter (inside the garage also) and then to a breaker panel next to the meter (inside the garage)

I do not know why they have the disconnect before the meter inside the garage and why the meter is inside the garage (single family dwelling).

My question is there a way to junction the conductors inside the ground using a special junction box or only way to do it is to set up junction box above the ground, then come out with pvc conduit into the ground again to the side of the house and into the meter.

First time I have to deal with something like this. Usually I only do overhead connections, done couple underground but never had to move underground service to new location.
Are the conductors direct buried? If so use direct burial rated splicing method and cover it up and be done with it.

If they are in raceway figure out if worth cost of trying to splice them vs pulling new ones.
 
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