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GoldDigger

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On the subject of DRM, my son who is an Open Software enthusiast, tells me of a game manufacturer who published a game in which you operate a game business and try to make a profit.
In addition to their normal sales channels, the company itself made the game freely available via Bit-Torrent.
Only hitch was that in the Bit-Torrent version of the game, no matter what business and creative decisions you made, the company went bankrupt because their products were being pirated....
 

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I removed it from the pages of the 2011 handbook

You know if someone ends up with "your copy" of the PDF, you can plausibly say "Huh, they must of stolen it", but if you have a copy with the licensing information stripped (blue text lines), you might be up for some reasonably hefty fines.

In my humble opinion, stripping the licensing text is a really bad idea.:thumbsdown:

(thirty+ years as a software engineer .. passing knowledge of intellectual property law)
 

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You know if someone ends up with "your copy" of the PDF, you can plausibly say "Huh, they must of stolen it", but if you have a copy with the licensing information stripped (blue text lines), you might be up for some reasonably hefty fines.

In my humble opinion, stripping the licensing text is a really bad idea.:thumbsdown:

(thirty+ years as a software engineer .. passing knowledge of intellectual property law)

And using it for your own private purposes you likely never get found, but if distributing it or portions of it with that information or lack of information where it should be - you increase the risks. Not trying to promote illegal activity just presenting a little reality.
 

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And using it for your own private purposes you likely never get found, but if distributing it or portions of it with that information or lack of information where it should be - you increase the risks. Not trying to promote illegal activity just presenting a little reality.
I don't believe it's a license or copyright infringement to remove the licensing text. To distribute is an infringement, with or without the text. So removing the text doesn't matter in that regard... ;)
 

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Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) any interference with rights management software, even for the purpose of making a backup copy or other "fair use", is a violation.

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Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) any interference with rights management software, even for the purpose of making a backup copy or other "fair use", is a violation.

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So I can not legally have a backup copy, if my original is damaged in any way I must pay for a new copy:(
 

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That all depends on whether the license terms wow you to have a backup copy.
Latest version of Microsoft Office is limited to one installation. If your computer breaks you are screwed.

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Smart $

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Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) any interference with rights management software, even for the purpose of making a backup copy or other "fair use", is a violation.
I'm not going to read the Act to verify your statement, but I believe that is regarding outright infringement, i.e. no permission is/was granted. Licensing agreements typically alter the conditions of infringement. Otherwise we'd be tasked with writing our own software, taking all the pictures we use, drawing all diagrams, etc.... and pirating everything else. ;)
 

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I agree that to a large extent the terms of the licensing agreement rule.
All that I am asserting is that when the terms of the licensing agreement conflict with long established copyright law, DMCA gives absolute priority to the license agreement.

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That all depends on whether the license terms wow you to have a backup copy.
Latest version of Microsoft Office is limited to one installation. If your computer breaks you are screwed.
That's not an absolute truth. Without getting into all the possible scenarios, I suggest owners verify what their license permits. As an example, my Office 2013 Professional Plus edition was purchased through Microsoft's Home Use Program and its licensing, which permits installation on 2 PC's.

That said, as I understand it, even the 1 PC licenses include online Office apps. As such, you should be able to use Office on any computer with internet access.
 

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But an online Office 360 license must be renewed annually.

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Which makes it more of a subscription to a service then a license to a specific installation, you may or may not have a specific installation that you paid for a license that uses the service though.
 
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