Rotary Phase Converters

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jnamp

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Michigan
How do I size conductors for a rotary phase converter? I have a 240 volt feed, to a 30hp converter. I'm running a 3 phase 240 circuit. Any help would be great.
 

kwired

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NE Nebraska
Well lets start with

455.4 Marking. Each phase converter shall be provided
with a permanent nameplate indicating the following:
(1) Manufacturer?s name
(2) Rated input and output voltages
(3) Frequency
(4) Rated single-phase input full-load amperes
(5) Rated minimum and maximum single load in kilovoltamperes
(kVA) or horsepower
(6) Maximum total load in kilovolt-amperes (kVA) or
horsepower
(7) For a rotary-phase converter, 3-phase amperes at full load

Hopefully your converter is marked with input voltage and current for one place to start.

Now that aside consider that you only have two lines carrying the same load that normally would be divided among three lines if supplied with true three phase source. That means it will draw approximately 1.73 times the current for same power at single phase as compared to the same power at three phase.

I'm guessing you figured you needed conductors somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 - 100 amps for a 20 hp motor @ 240 volts.

Since you said you have a 30 hp converter it's marked input rating is likely at least 135 up to maybe 160 amps.

Efficiency and power factor ratings probably make the main difference of exactly what the rating is.
 

jnamp

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My motor is 20hp, So The way I figured it was 20hp*746 watts = 14950 then divide that by 240 volts = 62.16 amps. I then have to multiply that by 2.5% Which brings me to 155 amps. Is this correct?
 

broadgage

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London, England
If the equipment is old and lacks a proper data plate, then a rule of thumb is to allow one KVA per horsepower, for motor losses and imperfect power factor.
So 20 HP may be assumed to be about 20KVA.
If one also allows for a 240 volt nominal service being actually 230 volts at the motor, then that gives a running current of 87 amps.
If one allows for the actual voltage being 220, which is likely with a service on the low side and a long feeder or branch circuit, then the running current would be about 91 amps.
 
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