Box extension on Carlon round ceiling box - how?

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MPdesign

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I have made a poor choice in using deep Carlon deep round nail-on ceiling boxes to make joints in the attic. I say that I made a poor choice because I thought that I could buy box extenders. They do not appear to make those in a round - not plastic or metal.

Can I add a metal octagon box extension? It does not appear to be proper because the edges of the round box are a bit wider. Alternatively, I could use a weatherproof RACO (red dot type box) round extension ring - but that also doesn't appear to be proper.

What is proper and correct? Is there a box extension that I am not seeing?
 
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Galt

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Allied molded products 9348? How far down do you have to come?
 

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What is proper and correct? Is there a box extension that I am not seeing?
Just to make sure we are all on the same page, are you trying to extend the box to meet a wall finish like drywall, or are you trying to get more volume for wire or devices in a box that will not have to come flush with a finished surface?
Since you refer to an attic, I wondered whether it was going to be a finished attic or a rough access space?
 

MPdesign

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I am using it as a junction box in the attic. I need to add cubic inches for terminations. The attic is not a walk-able attic. I am not finishing the attic.

This is for use in making wire terminations only. There is no sheetrock.
 
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I am using it as a junction box in the attic. I need to add cubic inches for terminations. The attic is not a walk-able attic. I am not finishing the attic.

This is for use in making wire terminations only. There is no sheetrock.
OK, that is what I thought. So the two box extensions shown so far are not going to work for you. The first one, the mud ring, would give you a little more space by moving the blank round cover plate farther out, but the second one would not have any way of mounting a fixed distance from the original box unless you build spacers of some sort.
 

Dennis Alwon

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Change the box in the attic and give yourself the proper room. I have used 3 gang switch boxes with a blank plate.
 

kwired

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Change the box in the attic and give yourself the proper room. I have used 3 gang switch boxes with a blank plate.

That was what I was thinking unless there are a lot of them that need more volume, and everything is already made up.

Just one or two boxes - could be all done before even finding out what may work and where to get it if dealing with the existing.
 

MPdesign

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They are already in and made up. Any other recommendations? I am certain that the weatherproof box extension (link) would meet code but I am not so happy with the look. That may be my best option.

Has anyone stacked these? link
 

Dennis Alwon

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Just do what this guy did.

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iwire

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They are already in and made up. Any other recommendations? I am certain that the weatherproof box extension (link) would meet code but I am not so happy with the look. That may be my best option.

Has anyone stacked these? link



No matter what you use to extend this it will always look like a cobbler did it.


I would change the box.
 
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