California listing requirement for industrial control panels

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Cmdr_Suds

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I am building several industrial control panels that are destined for California. Does California requires in their version of the NEC that all equipment be NRTL listed or labeled? If so, can you specify what section? I am having trouble finding their state code on the web.

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cowboyjwc

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Nothing is required to be listed and labeled, but if it is then it must be installed per any insturctions included with the product.

You need to speak to the local AHJ and see what they require.
 

petersonra

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Nothing is required to be listed and labeled, but if it is then it must be installed per any insturctions included with the product.

You need to speak to the local AHJ and see what they require.

There are a bunch of things in the code that have to be listed - like light fixtures and conduit, just to name a few. Perhaps you meant there is nothing extra in CA codes that require it.

I seem to recall back in the 80s that LA required ICP to be listed.
 

cowboyjwc

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There are a bunch of things in the code that have to be listed - like light fixtures and conduit, just to name a few. Perhaps you meant there is nothing extra in CA codes that require it.

I seem to recall back in the 80s that LA required ICP to be listed.

LA may have required it, but if you read 110.3, it doesn't say that it has to be listed. Now most inspectors like it to be listed, then they don't have to look at it that hard.

And yes you are correct light fixtures are required to be listed since 2008.
 

Cmdr_Suds

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There are a number of states that DO require everything to be listed or labeled. NY & NC are two that do. I was under the impression that CA required it also.
 

rbalex

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It is not a direct California Electrical Code requirement; however if the installation is under CalOSHA it is a requirement of Title 8, Subchapter 5, Electrical Safety Orders

?2305.4. Approvals.



The conductors and equipment required or permitted by these orders shall be acceptable only if approved.
(a) When the term "approved" is used in these orders, it shall refer to products, materials, devices, systems, or installations that have been approved, listed, labeled, or certified as conforming to applicable governmental or other nationally recognized standards, or applicable scientific principles. The approval, listing, labeling, or certification of conformity, shall be based upon an evaluation performed by a nationally recognized testing laboratory recognized pursuant to 29 CFR ?1910.7, which is incorporated by reference; or by a person, firm, or entity with appropriate registered engineering competence or by a person, firm, or entity, independent of the manufacturer or supplier of the product, with demonstrated competence in the field of such evaluation.
Exception: Where written approval by the Division is required in these orders.
(b) The Division may require proof in addition to that under (a) that the products, materials, devices, systems, or installations will provide reasonable safety under the conditions of use.
(c) When these orders require an approval of products, materials, devices, systems, or installations and that approval is not available under (a), it will be necessary to submit to the Division engineering calculations, stress analyses, and other data for each design, model, or make for which an approval is requested. The Division will then approve or disapprove the product, material, device, system, or installation as submitted or under specified conditions.
Note: Authority cited: Section 142.3, Labor Code. Reference: Section 142.3, Labor Code.

In addition it is a specific requirement of several municipal codes. Why the City of Los Angeles isn’t in that list, I don’t know because they definitely require third party certification.
 
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