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infinity

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They estimate that the wind gusts at the crane's elevation, about 1000', have already exceeded 80 MPH. Given that all of the weight has now become side loaded away from the crane's mounting I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down in the higher winds coming later tonight. We've already had the lights blink here a few times in the past hour. Won't be surprised if we loose power soon.
 

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Its been real mild here so far (Del Mem Br) some flooding but no wind to speak of. Salem county EMS said they expect the eye but I think the north east side is supposed to be most damaging. Next high tide on the Delaware will be a problem, should be right about the same time we get the eyewall. Jersey Shore is wrecked.
 
Well gentlemen, the storm is quickly approaching. I hope you all remain safe. I pray that there are no casualties or serious injuries to anyone.

I'm about 65 miles north of NYC. I'm "planning" to be out of power for a day or 2, just hunkering down with my family to try to keep my kids, (and wife), from being afraid. I'm sure the winds will have my little guy fearful. Took him for a quick walk down to the lake for some fresh air around 2PM just as it began to sprinkle and the breeze picked up a bit. Now he'll be stuck in the house for a few days. Again, stay safe and be well. See you all on the other side!!!


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petersonra

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Well gentlemen, the storm is quickly approaching. I hope you all remain safe. I pray that there are no casualties or serious injuries to anyone.

I'm about 65 miles north of NYC. I'm "planning" to be out of power for a day or 2, just hunkering down with my family to try to keep my kids, (and wife), from being afraid. I'm sure the winds will have my little guy fearful. Took him for a quick walk down to the lake for some fresh air around 2PM just as it began to sprinkle and the breeze picked up a bit. Now he'll be stuck in the house for a few days. Again, stay safe and be well. See you all on the other side!!!


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tell them to buck up and go to work like a man. :)
 

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The wind gusts have really picked up in intensity over the past hour. Lights have been blinking regularly. Looks like a kindle and a candle will occupy the rest of my evening.:eek:hmy:
 

qcroanoke

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Here in Roanoke, Va. lots of wind but very little rain.
Works for me!
lots of rain means water in basement and sump pump working hard.
 

renosteinke

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Well, it looks like the remnants of Sandy are centered over Columbus, Ohio, as I write. A little rain, a little flooding, some winds ... no big deal. Power outages? No worse than when it's a sunny day in August.

Some 'storm of the century.' Dare anyone compare this overblown thunderstorm to Camille, or Andrew, or any other 'real' hurricane? In terms of disruption, it doesn't even compare to an ice storm, or even 23" of snow. You want to see wind damage, visit Joplin, Mo.

It's rather amusing when the effete media, accustomed to sneering about those of us in 'flyover country,' get a taste of what the rest of the world calls a normal storm. That's probably why the storm got hyped so much - not only could the writers report from the comfort of their offices, they had a personal interest.

It's almost a pity the storm was so tame. The Weather Channel is so much more fun to watch when a storm, say, releases all the animals from the zoo, and you have lions chasing muggers down Main Street. :D And what's a neighborhood without a few 'you loot, we shoot' signs? I was really looking forward to helicopters plucking folks off the top of the Empire State Building, and boats circling the Chrysler Tower! Or, maybe, a shot of the wind knocking down a housing project like so many dominoes.
 

kwired

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I'm going to stick my neck out .... so take a moment to sharpen your axes :D

"Frankenstorm" is pure media hype and chicken-little clucking.

Look at the satellite pics. "Sandy" is barely a loose spiral, not tight at all, and it's falling apart. It barely qualifies as a 'category 1' hurricaine. The spin is also in the wrong direction - that is, it will drive water away from shore. Quite the opposite of a 'storm surge.'

Let's put that in perspective: Most everywhere I've lived has frequently had 85mph winds - especially gusts accompanying storms. It's not that much. Typical summer prairy 'cloudbursts' drop as much water, just as fast.

The other part, the 'cold front?" Hurricaines are powered by heat. The two systems will simply cancel each other out.

I don't know why the media is making such a big deal of this non-event.

Don't tell me the 'experts' disagree. A pox on them. Feel free to return here in a few days, though, and tell me how wrong I was. :D

Strong winds accompanying a thunder storm are short in duration and not as widespread as compared to even a tropical storm.

The spin in the wrong direction will be in the opposite direction during the latter half of the storm.

The cold front? If that colder air should move over the top of the warmer air of the storm, can release a lot of energy that is stored in the warmer air. Which is exactly what happens on a smaller scale all the time with smaller thunderstorms.
 

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Well, it looks like the remnants of Sandy are centered over Columbus, Ohio, as I write. A little rain, a little flooding, some winds ... no big deal. Power outages? No worse than when it's a sunny day in August.

Some 'storm of the century.' Dare anyone compare this overblown thunderstorm to Camille, or Andrew, or any other 'real' hurricane? In terms of disruption, it doesn't even compare to an ice storm, or even 23" of snow. You want to see wind damage, visit Joplin, Mo.

You are still off base, NYC got slammed.
 

kwired

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Some 'storm of the century.' Dare anyone compare this overblown thunderstorm to Camille, or Andrew, or any other 'real' hurricane? In terms of disruption, it doesn't even compare to an ice storm, or even 23" of snow. You want to see wind damage, visit Joplin, Mo.

It may have been less powerful storm than others in past. It also hit an area not as accustomed to the threat of this type of storm, and of course a pretty high density of population.

No doubt Joplin was a pretty powerful event, but all that power was focused on a smaller overall area. If the storm that hit Joplin hits an area with little population it doesn't end up being that big of an event except to the few people it does directly effect.

A tornado packs a big punch, but in a small area for a short duration. A hurricane has much more power behind it. True top wind speeds in a tornado can easily be higher but are limited to a few acres as compared to hundreds of square miles for the hurricane.

It could be the "storm of the century" for the area it hit even if it does not compare to storms that hit other areas.

Go a little farther south along the coast and they are more experienced with these types of storms.
 

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PetrosA

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Here in Lancaster PA we were supposed to be right in the path. For now, things look ok but I haven't been out driving around. I had one call to check a fixture that leaked, but due to the distance I declined.

As far as hype goes, something that may not have been discussed much on US news but may be affecting the hype is that six Italian seismologists were found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to jail on Oct. 23 for failing to adequately warn the public about an impending earthquake in 2009. With that precedent, and the litigious nature of our society, I don't blame meteorologists at all for raising the alarm.
 

dicklaxt

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Have you every lived thru the post storm days without supplies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's better to be prepared than not,,,,it's not much fun to go hungry and be cold at the same time.

dick
 

Steviechia2

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It may have been less powerful storm than others in past. It also hit an area not as accustomed to the threat of this type of storm, and of course a pretty high density of population.




It could be the "storm of the century" for the area it hit even if it does not compare to storms that hit other areas.


I totally agree! This will have a huge impact especially for economy. The largest city in the world will be shut down or at least slowed down for probably 10-14 days. NYSE closed for at least 2 days. I can't even imagine the work that will have to be done in the subway system with all of that salt water. At least the subway will be clean:D
 

renosteinke

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Largest city in the world? Do you mean Shanghai or Cairo? Perhaps Bombay or Mexico City? NYC is big, but it's not THAT big.

The dead? More than that die on a typical NYC weekend in car wrecks. I bet if you looked at 'total deaths' you'd find fewer folks died during the storm than average.

Stuck without, in the cold and dark? Would you like some cheese with that whine? Ordinary grocery shopping leaves most of us with mountains of food, even when we're "out." Storage? It's Autumn, for heavens' sake ... no reason everything won't keep for days without power to the fridge. Then you cook it and store it some more.

No electricity? Gee, what will those Pennsylvania farmers do? If a bunch of 16th-century re-enactors can live without electricity, so can I. No heat? We're not in deep winter yet - still well within blanket & sweater range. Maybe DC can distribute some politicians as 'hot air generators.'

Nor am I buying excuses. Every season there's one calamity or another ... if not to you, to the guy down the road.

I never thought I'd find myself quoting Lindsey Lohan ... but here goes: "Quit emitting negativity." :D

You can't live life in a bubble.
 
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