Cost of KTK10 fuse.

[ptonsparky]

Customers employee replaced a CC001 fuse with a KTK10 fuse.
COST:
1- 30 hp vfd alarm relay card. (Robbed Peter to pay Paul.)
2- crude repairs of relay cards for radio control system. These fail often enough so I did not catch the first failure as being odd.:ashamed:
1- Instal of Isolating relay to prevent future damage to vfd alarm card. It was only controling small cube relays to begin with.
12 - hours to check every relay, every VFD, and every interlocking cord connection on 300' of conveyors looking for shorted equipment. Includes final checkout and test run after fix.
1 - each of L14-20C & P (why is it always the last item checked)

Same employee had replaced a twistlock cord end used for control interlock with a 480v 30 amp, then modified the original to fit his replacement. Resulted in short on control circuit and his replacing of 1 amp fuse with 10 amp.

 

[mike7330]

did you tip the employee? I had a plant where I had some of the same things that the plant's "electrician" would do . I made a lot of money off him!

 

[ptonsparky]

Never thought about a tip, I was pretty danged disgusted (POd) by the end of the day. It took to long & we have to many other places to be.

 

[jim dungar]

Fuses are always better than breakers, or something like that.:roll:

Oh, wait maybe this comment should go in the other thread?

 

[ActionDave]

did you tip the employee? I had a plant where I had some of the same things that the plant's "electrician" would do . I made a lot of money off him!

There is a hotel that our shop has done work for for more than thirty years. The old maintenance guy would call any time there was any sort of electrical issue.

The new guy that replaced him thought he knew enough to handle stuff on his own. If he thought himself a Blacksmith he would break an anvil. He is a friggin' gold mine. Dude can turn a ten minute, two hour minimum job; into two days, or more, of work.

 

[Fulthrotl]

Never thought about a tip, I was pretty danged disgusted (POd) by the end of the day. It took to long & we have to many other places to be.

red adair said it very well:

"if you think hiring a professional is expensive,
try hiring an amateur."

that being said, i've gotta go thru branch circuits on a 240 delta panel,
adding a neutral bus, the 3/0 to tie it back to the secondary of the
transformer, and then neutral wires for all the circuits the former shop
electrician got 120 by using the emt as a neutral. you jiggle a pipe over
here...... and computerized process equipment all over the place goes
nuts with a floating "neutral", 'cause he wasn't big on tightening down
the setscrew couplings on the neutral. you can jiggle pipes and the
couplings arc sometimes.

oh, yeah... it's supplying circuits in a washdown area as well. even funner.
this is the same guy who had a three phase circuit (480) fed with a&b phase
on one breaker, and c phase fed on another breaker..... in another panel,
fed off a different transformer.

i get to do it while they are running, too. how fun.

my job is to be of service to the people around me. i'm grateful for the
work coming to me these days.

if any of you have stuff you'd rather not be bothered with in so calif, feel
free to send them my way.... paying customers only, please.

 

[texie]

There is a hotel that our shop has done work for for more than thirty years. The old maintenance guy would call any time there was any sort of electrical issue.

The new guy that replaced him thought he knew enough to handle stuff on his own. If he thought himself a Blacksmith he would break an anvil. He is a friggin' gold mine. Dude can turn a ten minute, two hour minimum job; into two days, or more, of work.

Dave
Speaking of hotels, I stayed at the Quality Inn on Main Ave in your fine city about a month ago. On the first floor outdoor walkway you just have to see the recep. for the Wi-Fi gear in the ceiling-completly exposed, no box, just NM cable connecting to the recep. out in the open. If you were a tall person you could reach up and touch it. I meant to to a photo but forgot as I felt it should have been reported as a real hazard. I'm kind of embarrased that this is in our state, but I know these things go on all over the country.

 

[ActionDave]

Ughhh. Don't get me started on the WiFi guys.

 

[ptonsparky]

red adair said it very well:

"if you think hiring a professional is expensive,
try hiring an amateur."

that being said, i've gotta go thru branch circuits on a 240 delta panel,
adding a neutral bus, the 3/0 to tie it back to the secondary of the
transformer, and then neutral wires for all the circuits the former shop
electrician got 120 by using the emt as a neutral. you jiggle a pipe over
here...... and computerized process equipment all over the place goes
nuts with a floating "neutral", 'cause he wasn't big on tightening down
the setscrew couplings on the neutral. you can jiggle pipes and the
couplings arc sometimes.

oh, yeah... it's supplying circuits in a washdown area as well. even funner.
this is the same guy who had a three phase circuit (480) fed with a&b phase
on one breaker, and c phase fed on another breaker..... in another panel,
fed off a different transformer.

i get to do it while they are running, too. how fun.

my job is to be of service to the people around me. i'm grateful for the
work coming to me these days.

if any of you have stuff you'd rather not be bothered with in so calif, feel
free to send them my way.... paying customers only, please.

FWIW, I was more disgusted with myself than the customers employee.

In hindsight I feel we should have found the original problem, the cord ends, more quickly. However had I done so I would not have found the over sized fuse. We, my help, also would not have recognized and corrected a problem with circuit design that allows excess current to flow on expensive and hard to replace parts when the wrong sized fuse was used.