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cowboyjwc

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I hear this on rare occasions but it is a fallacy to make this extrapolation. In residential service there is a substantial loss in leaving a call with only the service charge. The two ECs I know with big businesses NEED to spend $300k+ per year in marketing to keep their guys busy. There goes $1,000.00 per day. The better business model is to sell services and stay on each job for at least a couple hours.

Well from the customer side, I don't care what it costs him to stay in business, I have expenses too. I'm just saying, fool me once......
 

GerryB

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one kind of job?

one kind of job?

A wise old electrician once told me, Gerry, there are two types of jobs. One of them takes a half a day, and the other one takes all day.
 

ritelec

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A wise old electrician once told me, Gerry, there are two types of jobs. One of them takes a half a day, and the other one takes all day.


I worked for I guy a few years after I started in the trade..... He was not wise nor old.......actually I think he went out of business......but....

I would come in at the end of the day with my time spent on service calls that he would bill for.

Always stuck in my mind how I presented him this time card one day, which had 2 .5 hrs for one job, and 4.5 for another.

He crossed out the 2.5 and changed it to 4, and crossed out the 4.5 and changed it to 8.


The pen is mightier than the sword.


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ritelec

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Just gotta mention..I haven't thought about this guy in years. but now I'm sitting here laughing.

I think he got in trouble for not paying prevailing rate on state work he had.......and from what I heard he bought the company from a guy that was in deep for "wiring a police station with wire and no conduit".......I don't know but...

why I'm laughing is...... He sent me on a service call to do something in a 2 family. I get to the second floor and walk in thru the front door.....there's a little old lady sitting in a chair in the middle of an almost empty room with dog crap all around her and the apartment with a German Shepherd walking around . Her middle aged son comes out of the bed room with a flamingo pink bath robe and flamingo pink feathery slippers...

I mentioned I had to go to the truck to get something and proceeded out the back door down the outside stairs.

I called the shop and said I wasn't going to do the work there...he fired me................ha ha ha ha

Thanks for letting me share.


Crazy world, Crazy people.






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bradleyelectric

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forest hill, md
Well from the customer side, I don't care what it costs him to stay in business, I have expenses too. I'm just saying, fool me once......

The problem is that if someone is actually running a business that pays for health insurance, retirement, a mortgage on a middle class home, putting some kids through school and a decent middle class vacation he isn't trying to fool you. Someone that is living off government food, has a truck that is either on its last leg or they are having trouble paying for, no retirement plan and lives off their spouses income for a place to live is often what people see when they are buying off price. They just think the person that is running a business is trying to get over on them.
 

satcom

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The problem is that if someone is actually running a business that pays for health insurance, retirement, a mortgage on a middle class home, putting some kids through school and a decent middle class vacation he isn't trying to fool you. Someone that is living off government food, has a truck that is either on its last leg or they are having trouble paying for, no retirement plan and lives off their spouses income for a place to live is often what people see when they are buying off price. They just think the person that is running a business is trying to get over on them.

You made it easy, for everyone to understand good job
 

Sparky555

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The problem is that if someone is actually running a business that pays for health insurance, retirement, a mortgage on a middle class home, putting some kids through school and a decent middle class vacation he isn't trying to fool you. Someone that is living off government food, has a truck that is either on its last leg or they are having trouble paying for, no retirement plan and lives off their spouses income for a place to live is often what people see when they are buying off price. They just think the person that is running a business is trying to get over on them.

Amen brother.
 
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