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kwired

Electron manager
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NE Nebraska
I sure hope if this is all POCO's doing they have good liability insurance. None of what has been mentioned so far is even going to be considered by all the POCO I have ever dealt with. They are usually very particular about anything on supply side and including the meter and its enclosure as far as liability from them may be. Once they seal it - and you open it - it is you that are trespassing so to speak in their equipment.

I'm surprised a POCO even has these meters still around. Most are in museums by now. Definitely not something that I have ever seen done, and I've worked utilities most of my 63 year long (so far) life. How do you spell stupid?[/QUOTE]

I'll try. S-T-O-O-P-U-D

Was that right:D
 

steve66

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Illinois
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Engineer
Yes, these are temporary. Usually takes the POCO about 30 days to come out and install a permanent meter.

Yup those are unfused conductors sticking out of the bottom. :blink:

Unfuesed I can live with. But don't these wires need a proper wiring method?
 

kwired

Electron manager
Location
NE Nebraska
Unfuesed I can live with. But don't these wires need a proper wiring method?

like inside the cabinet like modern units have?? They are sticking something that belongs in a museum into a new service. How well does the (looks like maybe 10AWG) hold up to 120 amps of load if that is possible - homes with electric heat it is not too far out of reality.
 

infinity

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Location
New Jersey
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like inside the cabinet like modern units have?? They are sticking something that belongs in a museum into a new service. How well does the (looks like maybe 10AWG) hold up to 120 amps of load if that is possible - homes with electric heat it is not too far out of reality.

The conductors out of the adapter are #6. In free air they might survive with 120 amps. One thing to remember is that these meters are on an old 30 or 60 amp service so it's unlikely that the load will change before the POCO gets there to change it.
 

tkb

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Location
MA
Like plugging in the jumpers is much more safer from arc flash potential than plugging in the meter:(

I always installed the jumpers before I spliced the service drop hot. The main is left open while splicing.
 

kwired

Electron manager
Location
NE Nebraska
I always installed the jumpers before I spliced the service drop hot. The main is left open while splicing.

Guess that is OK all things considered, still don't know why they just can't give you a meter, they can come inspect it whenever they want and put a seal on it without turning off the customer again.

Then we have the guys with the other extreme side of the POCO policies. They turn you off and you put in the new service and then owner better either find a place to stay or get a generator because who knows when you will be turned back on. I could not live in those places where that happens, not after how long I have been around POCO's that are usually pretty easy to work with and to get appointments with. If you have something fairly urgent they are there within 15 - 30 minutes most of the time during regular hours. After hours it needs to be an outage or dangerous situation requiring their assistance but they are there pretty quick.
 

Gac66610

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Location
Kansas
had to replace a meter and mast couple weeks ago, called POCO told them when i was doing this, called inspections told them what i had going on, inspector told me to call him when i was almost done, he came by inspected the meter and mast, called the office to let them know it past, office called POCO told them it was ready for perm service. Power was disconnected about 9am ... perm service was back on that afternoon.

a little planning, a few phone calls, and i dont have to mess with live wires :thumbsup:
 
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Wound up calling the POCO (several weeks ago) to see if anyone ever filed for an upgrade at this address. NOPE. Told them there were live exposed lugs on the side of the house and a POCO rep was there in 20 minutes. He said "WHAT THE ......", just like I had:D and gave me the go ahead to do a proper upgrade. Been all done, inspected and POCO put thier new meter in (several weeks ago). Just remembered about it because I brought the "jumper" to my local EC Association meeting last night for "show and tell".
 
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