Energy Code Boxes
- Thread starter Dennis Alwon
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Nice BM&C session gents. 
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
K_Buz
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- Southeastern Wisconsin
A quick look at the product line and I'm not seeing a fan rated version of those. I'm probably missing it tho.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
The only houses that these are required in are, houses with gas appliances, and houses with attached garages ... which pretty much includes all houses
How big is the hole for the wire, do we need special air-tight romex connector?
IF not, what good is the box?
John120/240
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- Olathe, Kansas
Gac66610 you are talking about carbon monoxide "CO" which is the deadly gas given off by
combustion. Infinity is talking about carbon dioxide "CO2" which is naturally occuring.
speed reading again :slaphead::ashamed1:
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I think infinity was trying to tell Hillbilly that co2 detectors are not carbon monoxide detectors.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
They are both deadly. CO2 is more natural but if you enclose yourself in a sealed container you will eventually suffocate because you consumed enough oxygen (and converted it to CO2) that there is insufficient oxygen to sustain your needs. Bottom line is that the air you breathe needs to contain oxygen. CO doesn't necessarily hurt you it just displaces the needed O2 in the instances where we are concerned with using detectors. You will sufficate in nitrogen rich environment also yet there is more nitrogen in natural atmosphere than any other gas.
renosteinke
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- NE Arkansas
Judging by comments by our Canadian members, as well as material presented in "Holmes on Homes," it appears that our northern neighbors have been much more persnickety about sealing boxes and protecting the vapor barrier than we are.
I confess to paying little heed to the vapor barrier in my work. I also routinely see many penetrations of the barrier by household electrical.
In my 1957 house, the electrician preserved the vapor barrier by running the wires atop it, just under the face of the drywall. Mind you, this was before the NEC had any nail plate or setback requirements for Romex.
We certainly saw the results of hasty sealing after the Carter-era "energy crisis." The trapped moisture directly led to the 80's "mold" panic.
Tighter houses have also led to many changes in the mechanical and plumbing codes. Simply put, everything that burns gas or vents air really ought to have a specific supply of fresh air- whether it be a water heater or bath fan.
IMO, we're still barking up the wrong tree when it comes to moisture management. You simply can't seal all of it out, forever. You can, however, give it a way 'ou
I confess to paying little heed to the vapor barrier in my work. I also routinely see many penetrations of the barrier by household electrical.
In my 1957 house, the electrician preserved the vapor barrier by running the wires atop it, just under the face of the drywall. Mind you, this was before the NEC had any nail plate or setback requirements for Romex.
We certainly saw the results of hasty sealing after the Carter-era "energy crisis." The trapped moisture directly led to the 80's "mold" panic.
Tighter houses have also led to many changes in the mechanical and plumbing codes. Simply put, everything that burns gas or vents air really ought to have a specific supply of fresh air- whether it be a water heater or bath fan.
IMO, we're still barking up the wrong tree when it comes to moisture management. You simply can't seal all of it out, forever. You can, however, give it a way 'ou
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
If you want energy efficiency don't put in so many doors and windows and especially sky - lights.
They make all the difference in the world. My son lives in an apartment that only has one door, and two windows. All face north. It costs him practically nothing to heat the place compared to a house with windows everywhere. It is not all that big and there is apartments on all other sides so that helps some. He claims he seldom even turns his heat on. But he also has a computer that when he was at home I swear had to put out more heat than a 500 watt heater. He is a computer geek.
They make all the difference in the world. My son lives in an apartment that only has one door, and two windows. All face north. It costs him practically nothing to heat the place compared to a house with windows everywhere. It is not all that big and there is apartments on all other sides so that helps some. He claims he seldom even turns his heat on. But he also has a computer that when he was at home I swear had to put out more heat than a 500 watt heater. He is a computer geek.
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